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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffTyler Date: Aug 24, 2003 3:16pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: freecache resuming?

it is my understanding that as of right now, freecache downloads do not support resuming. which does suck becuase if someting happens mid-download, you ahve to go re-download again.

Is this because when you download to your hard drive, it downloads first to a random 'temp' folder, then when it is 100% it moves it to the specified folder? So if it messes up, you re-do the download, and it doesn't 'sense' that part of the files are already in the 'temp' folder like it would if it was an FTP program, right?

I think that the admins are working on freecache resuming for sure, so hopefully that comes soon!

also, just FYI, i was trying to get the Staff pick Mermen show using freecache and still was only getting 25-30 kbps, even thoug the show was on freecache02 server. Weird! i will hope to see these rumored 3 Mbps downloads. would be killer.

Tyler

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffRalf Muehlen Date: Aug 25, 2003 1:50am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: freecache resuming?

FreeCache does support resuming. However, if the file is not yet cached, you'll get it from the original web siite, in this csase etreeXX.archive.org. The cgi that zips up shows on etreeXX cannot resume. We are working on ways to make that cgi better to support resumes.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffbleblanc Date: Aug 25, 2003 4:57am
Forum: etree Subject: Freecache speeds

also, just FYI, i was trying to get the Staff pick Mermen show using freecache and still was only getting 25-30 kbps, even thoug the show was on freecache02 server. Weird!

Note the domain of the freecache02 server (archive.org) - this means that the source you are getting it from is probably in that same pool of bandwidth as the etreeXX.archive.org servers. Jon, Ralf, can one of you confirm that this is the case with the freecache02 machine?

The quick servers are the ones that are on a totally separate domain - i.e. stanford.edu

Does anyone else out there have any affiliation with a school running I2?

-Brad

This post was modified by bleblanc57 on 2003-08-25 11:57:12

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffsimon c Date: Aug 25, 2003 6:21am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Freecache speeds

Here's my uneducated take on it, for what it's worth:

Freecache has a number of different mirrors for popular files, and you can see those on the Freecache status page.

However, the Freecache mirror at the Internet Archive uses the same bandwidth that the rest of the web/ftp site does, so you won't get significantly, alarmingly faster download speeds that way.

Looks like the Internet2 mirror is currently down, so the only other Freecache mirrors right now are some experimental ones at amsterdam.netherlight.net, and the one at stanford.edu. Both of these should give you much faster downloads than leeching from the Archive.

If you go to http://www.archive.org/web/freecache/status2.php (may take a long time to load), you can see exactly what files are mirrored on those other sites right now, and if you can recognise them by name, you can right click to download them, probably at much faster speeds than you can from the Archive.

A basic test got me 50k/sec from freecache03.archive.org, about 80-90k/sec from amsterdam.netherlight.net, and a blazing 150k/sec (maxing out my DSL) from stanford.edu.

Obviously, your mileage may vary. Hope this helps a bit in the short-term, though. I'm sure there's going to be other long-term solutions for dealing with this.